Van Conversion: Ford Transit Stereo Installation
The factory stereo in our Ford Transit was a base SYNC system with CD, USB, Bluetooth and AM/FM radio. It will play music but leaves much to be desired in terms of audio quality, capability, backup camera and expandability. We decided to swap it for an aftermarket double din head unit from Pioneer. We’ve had Pioneer units in three previous cars with positive results. This time around, we went with the Pioneer 4200NEX for the full list of audio source options, Apple CarPlay functionality and idatalink integration for diagnostic features. Here’s our experience with a Ford Transit stereo installation.Material, Tools, Cost & Labor
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• Ford OEM Airbag Light, Part# BK2Z-10A936-B- Part Online
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Installation Time: 5 Hours[/ebs_toggle]
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Process
Step 1: Program Maestro RR
If you’re going to use a Maestro RR in your installation you will want to program it in advance. We’ve outlined the basic steps and our experience with it on a previous post that you can read here. We won’t go into the details here but be sure to do this a head of time so you don’t hold up the installation in the vehicle.
Step 2: Factory Stereo Removal
This will vary based on which factory stereo came standard in your van. Ours has the basic Sync system with the small display on the top of the dash (build code XX). First we had to pry the top tray loose and hold it out of the way. Then we could remove the radio face panel. This required removing two screws along the top edge of the radio bezel and working the trim removal tool around the outer edges. It will require some force to remove the faceplate but be careful to not damage your dash or vents. You will reuse these vents in the new faceplate of the Metra installation kit.
Once you have removed the faceplate, you can remove 2 screws that are holding the top tray and display screen in place. Then the top tray is only held in with trim clips. On stereos without the small display you can remove the top tray completely in the first step. Removing this tray in either configuration is much easier if you use some trim removal tools.
Step 3: Wiring & Connections
This is the bulk of the installation and easily the most daunting element of the project. I’ve installed many aftermarket stereos in the past, but this one presented several challenges due to the lack of complete wiring diagrams from the manufacturers of the products used. Below are the factory wiring diagrams with additional notes that I had to research or get from calling the support lines of the manufacturers.
Maestro RR Wiring Instructions – Download PDF here.
OBDII Connections from Maestro RR – These connections are made under the dash at the OBDII port. Instructions are not provided by iDatalink with the Maestro RR unit. After a call to support, I found that the Maestro Red wire goes to Factory White/Blue Stripe, Maestro Yellow wire goes to Factory White.
OEM Screen Connecter to Maestro RR –Download diagram here. You’ll need to plug in two small pins from the Maestro harness to the factory stereo harness for the backup camera to work.
Pioneer 4200NEX Wiring Instructions – Download diagram PDF here & Full Owner Manual Here
USB Port Installation
We replaced one of the factory 12v Power Ports in the dash with a USB port that plugs into the Pioneer 4200 NEX. We also mounted a second USB / HDMI port under the center console. This port also plugged into the rear of the Pioneer 4200 NEX. Using the trim tools, you can easily remove the center console panel with the 12v plug. Removing the factory plug requires breaking off two small plastic tabs that hold the port in. The replacement ports fit perfectly into the factory hole and a large plastic nut on the backside of the new port will hold them in place.
The USB / HDMI port that is mounted under the center console requires a new hole to be drilled that matches the diameter of the port. With the center console’s cup holder / change tray removed, you can easily access the backside of this port to screw on the plastic nut to hold it in place. The cables from these ports will have to be fed up either side of the center console to a small opening underneath where the factory radio existed.
Tip: To ensure the new ports do not loosen up or rotate after they have been installed you can run a bead of hot glue around the back side to lock in their position.
Step 4: Prep for Final Install
After you have everything wired up, you’ll want to put your key in and power up the head unit. Test all the functions, speakers, steering wheel controls, etc. Once you confirm that everything is working and no missing or loose connections exist, then you can begin the preparations for the final install.
The Metra kit includes 2 side brackets that will need to be screwed to the side of your head unit. The brackets have two lower points that insert into existing holes in the dash. These will float the head unit in place. Two screw holes on the top corners of the bracket will sit flush against a piece of the factory plastic. You will need to drill a small pilot hole at these two locations so you can insert two screws to hold the bracket in place. Two additional screws will align with factory screw holes in the rear of the stereo from the Metra bracket. These 4 screws will hold the head unit in place.
At this stage, you’ll need to begin getting the maestro unit, cables, and connectors positioned correctly so you can put the dash back together. This can become difficult due to the number of wires, connectors, etc. present behind the stereo. You’ll want to start tucking the maestro unit and as many cables as you can under the new head unit or to the sides. You can’t leave them all in the rear as the new top tray will eventually fill this space.
The Metra install kit comes with a top tray and a front plate. The top tray comes without the trim clips installed. The clips should be in a small bag of parts in the kit. Retrieve the clips and attach them to the tray by following the instructions or by comparing them to the factory tray you removed. The vents will need to be removed from the factory stereo faceplate and relocated to the new faceplate. This involves a few small screws and clips that run on both sides of each vent. You can use a small flat head screw driver or trim tool to loosen these clips. You’ll also need to relocate the hazard light button to the new faceplate and use the provided trim plugs to fill in the other faceplate openings.
Ford Transit Passenger Seat Airbag Indicator
One of the openings in the faceplate is for the passenger seat airbag indicator. Depending on your factory stereo configuration or model year, this may not be used. On our 2018, the passenger airbag light was part of the factory stereo control cluster we removed. The result is that the cable is left disconnected in the dash. This triggers the warning light on the dash lights – which is really annoying. We ordered a Ford OEM part# BK2Z-10A936-B. This part was designed to fit in the faceplate location and has the harness connection that matches the factory stereo. Once the indicator is connected the dash light went off. I choose to leave the plastic plug in the faceplate and leave the indicator light in the dash where we can’t see it. It constantly glows orange when the airbag is turned on or off, which is annoying to look at on the dash.
Step 5: Final Install
Congrats! This is the easiest step. Before beginning, you should turn the stereo on. Test all the functions one last time to make sure no connections have came loose. If everything is working, you are truly ready to close up the dash. Start by simply pushing the faceplate in place. Make sure the vent tubes align properly with the ports coming out of the dash. Also check the fit of the head unit screen with the opening in the trim. If the screen doesn’t stick out enough or creates large gaps then you’ll need to adjust how the stereo brackets attach to the stereo sides. Once you have firmly seated the faceplate in the dash, you can move on to the top tray.
You’ll want to ensure you have moved all wires to a position that prevents pinching by the top tray’s final position. The top tray should just click down onto the dash with tabs that fit into the top of the front faceplate. It may require some force to seat the tray into position. You may have some lower dash panels to reinstall or center console trim pieces as well depending on if you added additional USB, auxiliary, or HDMI ports. You can now reinstall them in reverse of how you removed them.
Our Experience
Installation Process
What a annoying mess! I had several rounds of no or conflicting information provided by the manufacturer of the the Maestro RR. The support line staff were polite and were helpful at times but didn’t solve 100% of my issues. The first issue is that iDatalinkt did not provide a compressive enough wiring diagram for the Maestro RR. It does not clearly specify the wiring of the OBDII connection or the two loose wires coming from the upper OEM dash screen connection. I solved both quickly by calling the support line at iDatalink, but why not include this in the provided wiring instructions?
My second issue occurred when the steering wheel controls stopped working altogether. All steps suggested by iDatalink did not solve my problem. They basically said it was the Pioneer unit and that I could call Pioneer but they would blame the Maestro RR as standard protocol. They recommended I send my head unit back and get a replacement one. Really? I refused to throw in the towel and contemplated a few of my own ideas. What worked was retrieving the actual Device Number from inside the Pioneer settings menu and reprograming the Maestro RR with this number. The original instructions for the Maestro was to use the serial number of the unit. After reprogramming the unit we had an operating steering wheel control pad again.
Some of the steps of the process, like cutting the dash, jamming all that wiring into the dash, and running the extra cable to the ports I installed, were fairly straightforward. I burned up about 2 hours sitting on hold with support, troubleshooting my Maestro issues, and reprogramming my Maestro.
Performance
The Pioneer unit, in combination with the Maestro RR, has performed well so far. Almost every function works as expected. The flexibility of the system, addition of vehicle gauges, and the ability to use CarPlay are huge improvements over the factory head unit. I said “almost every function” because I’m still having issues with getting Siri to work properly through the head unit and getting the bluetooth microphone to work properly. My assumption is the factory microphone would be used with the addition of the Maestro RR and initially seemed to the the case. However, in the days following the installation it seems to not be working consistently. It could be a settings issue and I will contact Pioneer support to try to identify the issue.
Update: Originally did not install the pioneer microphone. After installing it and changing the maestro settings it appears to be working correctly now.
Another outstanding issue is the passenger seat airbag light is currently on in the dash. This is a result of the fact that Ford wired the original passenger seat airbag light into the factory stereo unit itself. The connection is currently not hooked up to anything. I’ve found an OEM part to install into the Metra dash kit that will add the passenger airbag light back into the dash. Once I acquire this part and install it, I’ll report back on the outcome.
Update: Ford airbag indicator light solved this problem. Updated install section above to reflect this.
In Retrospect
I would buy the Pioneer 4200NEX again. I’m not 100% sure I’d do a Ford Transit stereo installation myself again if I could find a super good deal on a professional installation. I’ve installed many head units over the years and this might have been the most complicated and frustrating one yet. In the end it was worth it, but took way longer then it really should have.
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24 COMMENTS
works on 2018 ford transit 250? my radio dont have screen….
There are 3 different main radio configurations. No screen, small screen and large screen. Install process is similar for all options except for the removal of the factory stereo.
I have de factory stereo basic, i dont have de SYNC stereo, Do you know if the installation is possible? I would not like to lose the hands free of the steering wheel
Thanks
where did you find the passenger airbag part? I cant seem to find it online
thanks
We bought ours from an online retailer that sold OEM ford parts. You should be able to contact a dealership to locate one though. Here is one online: https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-air-bag-switch-bk2z10a936b
Nick just wanted to say thanks for posting this. It was a great help when I converted my 2015 transit that had sync. Thanks!
Glad it helped! I know during my own install it was hard to find complete information on the process.
Could you elaborate on the OEM Screen Connecter to Maestro RR part? I dont understand where these pins are supposed to go
Thanks
If anyone is confused like I was, you are putting the pins into the 18 pin harness that goes from the radios fo2 harness into the maestro unit
I have a 2018 Ford Transit 150 van and the conversion kit I got seems to fit but it’s it won’t take my double din because of a plastic piece that’s going from right to left. It’s almost like I have to cut it out physically. Did you experience this? Thanks
Yes. You have to cut out that piece.
Nick, thank you for the excellent write up! Apologies if I missed it, but was the original backup camera used and are the parking assist lines present on the new unit? Thanks again!
Yes. The factory backup camera works and includes the parking assist lines.
Thank-you for the excellent write-up!!!
Did you use the Pioneer microphone and/or the GPS antenna? I’m nearly done with this install (woohoo!) but I’d like to use the built-in Transit microphone. Also, how were you able to get those 3ft HDMI/USB wires up to the back of the Pioneer unit??? Mine won’t reach…
I ended up using the pioneer microphone. Was getting inconsistent results using the factory microphone. I don’t think I had much slack but was able to get the USB ports in fairly easy. Minus the huge stack of wires that had to be tucked under the top tray. It gets tight in there. Also didn’t use any gps antenna. Use CarPlay for navigation with Waze.
How did you connect the backup camera to the Pioneer head unit?
Using the maestro rr unit.
I noticed that you mounted a sub-woofer in the wall just behind the driver seat? Could you tell us what you used and how easy was it to install? Did you just make a sort of adapter out of a piece of plywood to attach it in the body cavity? Install an amp somewhere? Thanks and great build!
I’m using a self powered sub woofer from Rockville. I temporarily mounted the sub to the wall during the early part of build but eventually relocated it to under the passenger seat. Just used a standard subwoofer install kit.
Does your back up camera come on when you put your car in reverse? Mine only comes on when I push the camera button on the HU.
Yes it does. You may need to change a setting or you may be missing a connection.
Does your backup camera come on when you put the van in reverse? Mine doesn’t and only comes on when I push the camera button on the HU.
Do you have any idea if this plan will work for a pioneer AVH 1440NEX?
It’s very likely to work the exact same way. I can’t be 100% sure but I see no reason it wouldn’t.
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